The porsche hull actually had a rear mounted turret and a mid mounted engine with the same suspension that was used on the elefant. This project was rejected, but the design of the turret was accepted and adapted for henschels tiger ii because the henschel turret wasnt ready yet. The gunners position is to the left of the cannon and the loaders to the right. While not having carried out modeling for a while, its getting cold these days. Detail taken from tigers in combat ii stackpole books p335. Fyi, i used a porsche turret tiger main gun metal barrel sourced from eto armor, an online vendor and managed in the usa by daryl b.
Basically its because when the wehrmacht put out a request for a heavy tank to replace the tiger i, porsche and henschel submitted prototype hulls. The first eight turrets produced had lower sides and a flat roof with raised centre section to allow the gun to be depressed through a larger arc. Porsche turret curved front rival firm henschel began designing a kwk 43 armed tank in october 1942. Two german tiger ii heavy tanks with socalled porsche turrets actually a krupp design at rest, france, jun 1944 german tiger ii tank near vimoutiers, orne, normandy, france, circa junjul 1944 german tiger ii heavy tank with porsche built turret at canteloup, france, jul 1944, photo 1 of 3. In fact both prototypes used the initial krupp design. Tiger ii with a soft steel prototype porsche turret at bovington. It was introduced during the closed beta test for ground forces before update 1. The tiger ii p remains one of the more potent foes a player could face in the rank iv battles. Guys, big thanks for the help, ive ordered the book. Revellgermany king tiger ii ausf b porsche prototype. The final official german designation was panzerkampfwagen tiger ausf. B porsche prototype turret plastic model kit from revell germany. King tiger tank with porsche turret of the schwere panzer. Krupp had been given a contract to design and build turrets for the vk.
During its development stage, both the henschel and porsche firms introduced rival prototypes that incorporated different turret configurations. The only hull on the production tiger ii is the henschel hull. German heavy tanks, prototypes, vk4501p, vk4502p, maus and eseries. B p or tiger ii p is a rank iv german heavy tank with a battle rating of 6. Two turret designs were used in production vehicles. Tiger ii prototypes v1, v2 and v3 page 2 missinglynx. Konigstiger gbx14 with porsche turret, konigstiger henschel and porsche turrets gbx14 tiger ii, panzerkampfwagen vi ausf. The initial design is often misleadingly called the porsche turret due to the belief that it was designed by porsche for their prototype. Of the total ammunition load of 86 rounds 80 for the tiger ii with earlystyle turrets, the recommended ratio was 50% pzgr. This alternative king tiger was never produced despite the technological breakthroughs that were poured in the transmission, and propulsion.
Actually the tiger ii prototypes did not share the same hull. This vehicle was the second soft steel prototype made and did not see active service. King tiger tank with porsche turret of the schwere panzer abteilung 503. Both turrets were mounted in the middle of the tank. The initial design was sometimes mislabeled as the porsche turret due to the belief that it was designed by porsche as their prototype. Both were designed and made by krupp and, after henchel were awarded the contract, the prototype porsche parts. Krupp already produced approximately 50 of these turrets, some of which were placed on the porsche prototype hull, when it was henschel who won the contract for the hull design. Revellgermany king tiger ii ausf b porsche prototype plastic. Any idea on the other two prototypes, if they ended on any other proving grounds. Obering rabe of porsche reported on 17 may 1944 that the turret for the planned e100 weighed just 35 tonnes a loss of just over 10 tonnes from the original tiger maus plans and marks a reduction in armor from the maus ii turret. This vehicle, often called the porsche tiger, was accepted for service and could have become the main german heavy tank of the war, had the situation developed a little differently. Just to help you out a bit i have scanned 2 drawings from thomas l.
The last tiger ii prototype history of the bovington tiger. Vol ii of the books covering the panzer aces of the german forces of wwii from the. When combined with the henschel turret version, a total of less than 500 king tiger tanks were. Henschel won the contract, and all tiger iis were produced by the firm. King tiger is a required subject for wwii german tank fans. Again in the same book it notes on page 250 that both of the repaired tiger iis had the porsche turret. Porsche both turrets used on the tiger ii were designed and built by the krupp company. Oct 14, 2018 work on this project let to the creation of another tank, the vk 45. See more ideas about ww2 tanks, german tanks, tiger tank. The porsche turret was originally developed for the vk4502p tank, which was based on the vk4501p chassis. Evaluation had revealed that the porsche turret lacked armor thickness, and. Dec 4, 2020 variant of the iconic world war ii german konigs king tiger heavy tank with the lesser produced turret manufactured by porsche. When engaging enemy vehicles at long range, the tiger ii had an upper hand over any other vehicle in terms of the gun and armor protection.
However, due to the excessive mass of the vehicle, relatively low durability of the engine and transmission, and small total number of vehicles built, the tiger ii did not have any significant impact on the. Inside view of the prototype turret mounted on the vk30. Ww2 german prototypes archives page 2 of 4 tank encyclopedia. The tiger ii was developed late in the war and built in relatively small numbers. Apr 14, 2020 both turret designs came from one company, krupp, with the conventional designations referring to the designs they were intended for. To expand on what wyrmalla said, this prototype soft steel porsche turret itself differs from the armoured production porsche turrets as well. Krupp on the other hand designed two styles of turrets. The initial design is sometimes misleadingly called the porsche turret due to the belief that it was designed by porsche for their prototype. The initial turret is often called the porsche turret due to the misconception that it was the turret used on the porsche prototype, as opposed to the more common production or henschel turret. Another feature of the prototype turret that would not be changed in the production model was the offsetting of the entire gun mantlet by 40 mm 1. During april 1945 the british captured several vehicles at the henschel proving grounds at haus. Krupp designed the prototype turret for the implementation on the tiger ii.
Vk4501 porsche tiger model with production turret late. Two turret designs were used in the production vehicles. Most notably it lacks the armoured door at the rear of the turret and the cupola. The first 50 tiger iis produced by henschel has this prototype turret on it. New title from euromodelismo panzer aces profiles vol 2.
The photo shows this to be a porsche turreted tiger i i. Tamiya german king tiger porsche turret 5 scale model expo. Turrets built for the porsche tank were later mounted on the henschel design, with the serienturme the socalled henschel turret being. Tiger ii with a soft steel prototype porsche turret at. The rounded one like is on the model i built, and a more angular one like this. This project was rejected, but the design of the turret was accepted and adapted for henschels tiger ii because the henschel turret. Tiger ii tank with porsche turret of the schwere panzer.
Nov 20, 2015 this turret was adapted to fit the henchel tiger ii body and had a rounded front and steeply sloped sides, with a curved bulge on the turrets left side to accommodate the commanders cupola. Mar 02, 2007 only later after teh war was the designation porsche and henschel turret invented. Jan 19, 2020 buying the tamiya production turret king tiger rc fo kit and the tamiya porsche tiger ii static display kit is today the simplest and maybe the best way to acquire the parts needed for your project. The last tiger ii prototype history bovington tiger. Tiger 1 and 2 prototypes ask the experts war thunder.
The krupp company received an order for construction of turrets. Fifty porsche turrets were mounted to henschels hull and used in action until the henchel turret variant production came online to replace it. In fact this turret was simply the initial krupp design for both prototypes. Only one completed tiger p with chassis number 1500 saw. Both turrets used on the tiger ii were designed and built by the krupp company. Tamiya 35164 5 king tiger production turret tank plastic model kit. Tiger ii tank with porsche turret of the schwere panzer abteilung 503. First, 50 tanks produced were used porsche turret type and the latter, which are larger number and main type, its henschel turret type. I would like to make one figure on the body of the tiger ii for emphasis the tank size. This turret had a rounded front and steeply sloped sides, with a difficulttomanufacture curved bulge on the turrets. Tamiya 116 king tiger rc with full option porsche turret.
Kit has detailed exterior surfaces, running gear injection molded track length, multipart road wheels and sprockets, movable turret with separate hatches openclosed, injection molded. Henschel won the design contract, and all tiger iis were produced by the firm. Production versions of the tiger ii used two different turrets. Kit has detailed exterior surfaces, running gear injection molded track length, multipart road wheels and sprockets, movable turret with separate hatches openclosed, injection molded tow cables, onepiece adjustable gun barrel, mg 34, separately molded on vehicle tools. Therefore if this text is correct then the 2 saved mailley le camp tiger iis of 503 had the porsche turret and they were repaired and returned to 503 for action in hungary. This tiger ii s engine was removed for use in the restoration of tiger 1, the only working example of a tiger i. It was not selected for production and the henschel design to the same specification was produced as the tiger i. Includes injectionmolded tracks and hatches that can be built open or closed.
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